Strengths Coaching Partnerships at El Rancho Middle School

Gallup Called to Coach Webcast Series -- Season 10, Episode 18.

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You've heard from the El Rancho Middle School program initiator, as well as from the students themselves, on how CliftonStrengths is helping their self-awareness and giving them the impetus to do what seemed impossible. Now hear from a group of volunteer coaches that Carol Anne McGuire brought in to give strengths coaching to these students. What are the "Whys" that motivated coaches from across the country to (virtually) coach middle schoolers? What is their perspective on how students grew and changed through their coaching, and what did the coaches learn about themselves in the process? The third installment of this three-part series will give you the answers and will inspire you to think of ways you can "pay it forward."

I believe that especially the middle school age, early high school is such an awkward time. It was for me. I lacked self-confidence. And I wish that I had had StrengthsFinder language to talk about, This is who I am.

Mike Crawford, 9:28

If I could send one message to my kids is that when life runs you over and you feel like, "I have nothing; I am nothing," go back to these strengths. Because you are amazing.

Carol Anne McGuire, 32:00

That gift that we can give people to tap into their strengths, to empower them to know that they are designed for something bigger than they even know, is just so powerful at any age.

Sheri Miter, 46:43

Jim Collison 0:00
I am Jim Collison, and this is Gallup's Called to Coach, recorded on April 20, 2022.

Meet Our Guests on This Episode

Jim Collison 0:18
Called to Coach is a resource for those who want to help others discover and use their strengths. We have Gallup experts and independent strengths coaches share tactics, insights and strategies to help coaches maximize the talent of individuals, teams and organizations around the world. If you are listening live on our live page at gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/live, there's a link right above me there to the YouTube instance that has a chat room. Love to have you in there chatting with us with your questions. And you can head over there right now; the video will just restart for you. If you're listening after the fact -- maybe on the podcast or on YouTube -- you can always send us an email with your questions: coaching@gallup.com. Don't forget to subscribe to Called to Coach on your favorite podcast app or right there on YouTube, so you never miss an episode. Carol Anne McGuire is back with me for No. 3. Carol Anne, you might have actually set a record here. I don't know if I've done three in a row with someone. But Carol Anne is a Gallup-Certified Strengths Coach specializing in education and faith-based organizations. She also has automatic lights that will turn on and off while we're doing the program. She's spoken nationally, internationally for companies such as Apple, Discover and Google. And Carol Anne, welcome back! We got an exciting one today. Welcome back!

Carol Anne McGuire 1:24
I am so excited about this one. This is, this is probably the one that I'm most looking forward to, of all of the ones.

Jim Collison 1:33
And why is that? Like why are you -- we've got the coaches here today. So we spent some time getting to know the program. Last session, we had some time with the students and got to know them -- which was dynamite, by the way, super inspiring. If you haven't listened to that, links are in the description. You can go back and listen to that. But why are you, why are you so excited about this one?

Carol Anne McGuire 1:51
Because like I know, I knew what the program was, right, and I work with the students, so I hear their back-, you know, their back-and-forth on my end, but I have not debriefed with the coaches. I just want to know, like, first of all, why even say, "Yes" to middle school? Like it just takes a special person to say "Yes" to middle school again.

Jim Collison 2:16
Yeah, we have a big crowd. I'm gonna go ahead and bring them in, and we're gonna spend some time getting to know them. And it's been a while since I've done a, kind of a roundtable interview like this. I'm excited about as well. But everybody welcome. Let's do what we call at Gallup a "Focus on You" -- just kind of an opportunity to go around the horn and, and tell us kind of who you are, where you're located, what you do, and then your Top 5. And Sherry, let's start with you. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Sheri Miter 2:43
Hi! Well, I'm excited to be on the show today. So I'm from upstate New York near Albany -- Troy, Albany, New York. And I work primarily with leaders and teams. I love to work with today's dynamic leaders and teams to help them use their strengths so they can thrive, not just in business, but in life in general. And my Top 5 are Futuristic -- had to look -- Maximizer, Self-Assurance, Command and Strategic.

Jim Collison 3:15
Sheri, thanks for coming out. It's, it's hard to do that Top 5 sometimes when you're on the, when you're on the spot, isn't it? Yeah, so --

Sheri Miter 3:21
It is.

Jim Collison 3:22
Thanks for coming out. Kathie, how about you?

Kathie Gautille 3:24
Hey! OK, I'm Kathie Gautille, and I'll start with my Top 5: Woo, Arranger, Belief, Positivity, Individualization. And I, actually, this month, it'll be 11 years that I've been coaching. I'm Gallup-Certified. I'm also on the faculty for Professional Christian Coaches Institute. I teach life coaching for that Institute. I am a faith-based coach; I'm a Catholic coach. And I work with churches and their congregation, as well as I do a lot of, with my Individualization, one-on-one coaching. So that's who I am.

Jim Collison 4:03
That's great, Kathie, thanks for coming out.

Kathie Gautille 4:05
Oh, and I'm in Dallas.

Jim Collison 4:07
You're in Dallas. We won't hold that against you, Monica -- Monica, unmute for me. How about you?

Monica Holmes 4:14
Good morning. I'm Monica Holmes, and I reside in Bowie, Maryland. I've been part of the Prince George's County Public School System. This is my 35th year. So I am looking for a transition in retirement, and I'm a Certified StrengthFinders coach. So my goal is to move forward in that. My Top 5 are Positivity, Individualization, Developer, Belief and Restorative, and I'm very excited about being here.

Jim Collison 4:41
Your Top 5 says a lot about 35 years in the school system.

Monica Holmes 4:47
Does it also say it's time to go?

Jim Collison 4:49
Well, that's your call. That is your call. Monica, thanks for joining us. Christian -- Kristin, how about you?

Kristin Clifton 4:56
Hi, I'm Kristin, and I am, this is like winning a walk-on to your favorite sitcom. I'm so excited to be here. So I'm actually on staff at a church. I actually don't work with kids, although my office would not make you think that. I do a lot of administrative support here at the church, but one of the things I'm doing also is bringing strengths culture here to this congregation. I'm in Northern Virginia, so I'm not too far from Monica. And I was certified in 2018. My Top 5 are Woo, Ideation, Includer, Communication and Individualization. But I also tack in activation -- Activator, because three times I've taken it, Activator has been No. 6 every time.

Jim Collison 5:34
All right. And I love the Woo at No. 1. So thanks for, thanks for having that. Mike, how about you?

Mike Crawford 5:40
Hi, I'm Mike. I am located in Quincy, Illinois, about as far west as you can get in Illinois, and I work with churches as well. I am a United Methodist pastor, but for the past 16 years, I've been the coordinator of congregational development, working with churches all across the lower three-quarters of Illinois and, in particular, helping church planters. So I've done a lot of training, equipping, coaching, I first connected with StrengthsFinders in 2003, and have found that language to be so helpful for me and have used it a lot in my church, in working with churches. And just an aside, literally this morning, right as we had to get on this call, an announcement went out that my role is changing, effective July 1, to where I'm going to become a district superintendent, which means I'll have more supervisory responsibility for about 100 churches.

Jim Collison 6:34
Wow. That sounds, that sounds great. Not sure whether to congratulate you or say, "I'm sorry."

Mike Crawford 6:39
Yes, exactly, Jim! Every friend I've ever had who's got, gone through this announcement, I tell them, congratulations and condolences!

Jim Collison 6:48
Yes, it's, leadership and supervising, I think, is some of the hardest work to do. And, and, well, thank you -- thank you all for coming. We really kind of just have two questions. And we're going to spend some time kind of going around the horn, talking about that in this experience. Again, if you're watching this, and you haven't watched the student interview first -- well, first of all, if you're live, just stay -- stay with us. It's OK. But if you're listening to the recording, and you haven't listened to the student interviews, I think it'd be helpful to listen to that first and then come back to this one. But, but Carol Anne, let's, I'm gonna let you kind of ask that first question -- what, and we'll kind of go around, and I'll pick you guys at random as we do this, so be ready to answer. But what's that first, what do we want to know from them, Carol Anne?

Carol Anne McGuire 7:31
OK, so for those of you that have, need to be caught up, I teach middle school, and I'm teaching the kids the Power of 2. And so we're doing a fundraiser, and they're in groups of Power of 2. And I thought, you know, it'd be kind of fun, just put a call out for the coaches, and see if I can get some coaches to come in and help coach them in the Power of 2. And these coaches, plus I think six more, volunteered to come to middle school and coach. And I purposely have not talked to any of you after the fundraiser, but I am dying to know why! Why did you answer the call to come to middle school? I mean, middle school is the most awkward time in anybody's life. I am so grateful that you did. But why -- why, why did you come? Why did you come and say, "Yes" to middle school?

Why Volunteer to Do Strengths Coaching at a Middle School?

Jim Collison 8:26
Kristin, let's start with you. What's, what's your Yes? And why did you say, "Yes" to it?

Kristin Clifton 8:31
Well, partly because I love Carol Ann. And if she invites you to do something, you want to say "Yes," because it's going to be fun. But also because I am trying to bring strengths to our youth group here at the church, I wanted to see, What does it look like to talk strengths with younger people? And we may get into this a little bit later. But I know that when I experienced StrengthFinders for the first time -- when it was still StrengthFinders -- it was so illuminating for me. I, it was free, and I wanted to help others experience that even younger because it's huge.

Jim Collison 9:03
Mike, what about you what, what was the draw to it for you?

Mike Crawford 9:06
Well, several draws. And I forgot to name my, my Top 5: Achiever, Analytical, Relator, Strategic and Maximizer. And the initial draw? Well, there are several initial draws. One is, I've always thought that when I retire from full-time ministry, I'd love to invest in students, because I believe that especially the middle school age, early high school is such an awkward time. It was for me. I lacked self-confidence. And I wish that I had had StrengthsFinder language to talk about, This is who I am, and this is how God's created me, and this is, this is what excites me. So that, that's a part of it. And so when Carol Anne put out the call, I saw people responding, and at first I was seeing all, all female coaches which was great. But I thought, you know, sometimes, you know, maybe a male voice would be helpful, and, and I said, "Well, you know, if you need somebody, I'll make some time." And so it was just a joy to be able to do that.

Jim Collison 10:12
Oh, great. Thanks for doing that. Monica, how about you?

Monica Holmes 10:19
I was scrolling through Facebook, through the Gallup page, and I saw, you know, that Carol Anne was reaching out, and I was like, Oh, my goodness -- what a wonderful opportunity! And as I mentioned earlier, I am in K-12 education. So kids, I'm kind of like drawn to students. And so with this opportunity, I'm looking for opportunities to expand my knowledge and my work around strengths. So I thought it was the perfect opportunity for work with students, as well as learn more about strengths. So I was excited from the very moment that she responded back and said, "Yes, please! We're excited to have you!" So just having the opportunity to work with students and having the opportunity to get back to a place where I was face to face and having conversations with the students was just an awesome opportunity. I was so excited. And I'm not going to jump the gun and talk about my experience, but yeah.

Jim Collison 11:08
It's, it's coming up. But let me ask you this question. I mean, you work with students all the time, right? I mean, so why another project with students?

Monica Holmes 11:18
So to be fully transparent, our district is fully vested in strengths. And we have a few high schools, because of a grant that we acquired, we have a few high schools that the students have their Top 5, and I've worked with those students. But we haven't gone down to the middle school level. So I thought it would be an awesome opportunity just to kind of explore and discover from that perspective, that, that age group, right. And so having that opportunity with students across the United States was really an awesome, awesome opportunity for me to participate in. So, yeah.

Jim Collison 11:56
It's a group, it's an age group, I think, that's difficult to -- you've got to really understand the students, I think. Because some can handle it at that age and some can't. In high school, it gets to be a little bit more common. I think you get more. In your experience, you've probably seen high schoolers maybe handle that a little bit better than middle school. But we're going to talk about that experience here. But, but I think it's, it's hit or miss at the, at the, at the middle school. So good, good on you for using it -- Hey, like, how would this work in middle school? Right?

Monica Holmes 12:30
And just to add to that, Jim, I recently looked back at my Signature report -- Themes report. And it specifies that I have a unique relationship with children. And so I guess that's what, you know, that was something that was highlighted in the Insight Report -- I'm sorry, I said "Signature Report"; Insight Report. And it says that I -- children are drawn to me, and I'm drawn to children. So I guess that's another reason because that's, as, as Mike just mentioned, that's who I am. Right. That's, that's a part of my DNA. So I was excited, again. I can't, I know I'm saying "excited" multiple times, but I was, and I really am! So thank you.

Jim Collison 13:11
All right. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. Kathie, how about you?

Kathie Gautille 13:15
Yes. Well, I have always been a teacher wannabe. And quite honestly, I actually, I, when I was in college, I dropped out of education and ended up going into communication. But I also served 12 years on the school board. So my passion for education is there. But really, first and foremost, it was the person asking. She, I just love Carol Anne, and the way she serves her students is amazing. I was even more impressed working with the kids and her. So that was it. The other is, you know, Mike was mentioning about his experience in middle school. It wasn't so much that for me as it was remembering how my kids -- what they went through in middle school, and how painful that was for all of them and their mother. So I was just delighted. I was delighted and I learned a lot.

Jim Collison 14:13
That's great. That is great. Sheri, how about you?

Sheri Miter 14:17
A lot of what we just heard, like Kathie, I went to -- I started college for teaching. So I've always had that passion for teaching, and I actually love that middle school age. It's, it is such -- I hated it as a student. But it's such a formative years. And I feel like that's a time that middle schoolers need to be surrounded by people who care about them. And when I saw that, I had -- in my past, I had done a lot of work with -- through my church -- with youth, and I haven't been able to tap into that for quite a while, and I've missed that. I miss working with the youth. Normally that was a little older high school, so when I saw that, I was like, OK, here's an opportunity for me to investigate it a little bit. What does it feel like to take strengths to youth and, you know, help those students? And like Monica, like, blown away, which we'll get into in a minute. But yeah, I didn't know Carol Anne; I'm glad to know her now. And it just looked like a fun opportunity to kind of bring two things that I love -- strengths and youth -- together and see what happened.

Jim Collison 15:33
That's some, some great answers there. Carol Anne --

Carol Anne McGuire 15:36
I love that you love my world!

Jim Collison 15:41
You respond to this a little bit. Your thoughts as, the first time you're hearing this -- What are your thoughts on this?

Carol Anne McGuire 15:47
One, I didn't realize we had so many church coaches. I mean, I knew some of you, but I had no idea. And that's interesting, because I'm also a faith-based coach outside of school. This is not a Christian school; it's just a public school. And it has been, it's just so fun for me to hear -- your, your "Whys," because middle school, for me, I, I've always, I've always taught elementary school. And I always bowed to the middle school teachers, anytime I heard somebody was in middle school, because like, no, middle school! And when I got here, I was like, No, these are my people. There, they're not consistent -- Consistency for me is No. 34. So this is like the perfect place for me to be. Because the kids come in one day, they're happy; then 15 minutes later, they're angry. They're sad. They're up. They're down. They're all over the place. And I love it. I love every minute.

First Impressions: Impressive Students

Carol Anne McGuire 16:44
And so to hear, like, your Whys -- why you came in -- is so fun for me. But what I really want to know is when you met the kids -- and I told the kids to watch for this; that when they speak to adults that understand strengths, there's always a moment when the adult is speaking to them. And they, in the beginning, it's like, oh, I'm talking to a 13-year-old. And then there's like a twist, where you go, Oh, wait -- you really understand what you're talking about. Did you have that moment? Did you have that moment when you were like, Oh, no, yeah, this is like, you're a client. I can speak to you like I would an adult. Did you have that moment?

Jim Collison 17:31
Feel, feel free at this point -- jump in a little bit. What, what was that first, that first coaching session like or, to Carol Anne's point, did you have that moment? Just jump in.

Kathie Gautille 17:43
I would say that I did. Markay and Naomi were just so precious. And what, what I really loved, that very first meeting, you could tell they were nervous. But then after meeting them several different times, and they, I think they had a better feel for my sense of humor. And that give-and-take that, that we had was just amazing. They definitely knew their Top 5. What -- so I don't want to get into more of the, you know, explaining, but yes, I definitely had that moment where, at first, they're a little, little shy. But I really felt they really knew what they -- they understood their Top 5. And you did a good job on that.

Carol Anne McGuire 18:33
Thank you. It's fun for me. It's so much fun for me to, to have it, but it's more fun for me to hear your stories.

Jim Collison 18:40
Yeah. Who else? Who else wants to share?

Mike Crawford 18:43
Yeah, I'd -- oh, go ahead, Sheri.

Sheri Miter 18:46
I was just gonna say, when I first -- and I met, so I worked with Natalia and Isabella. And I think it was Isabella I met first; Natalia could not be there. So I met them kind of one, first one and then the two. And my first reaction were, These are not the middle schoolers that I was! They were so confident. And like Kathie said, they knew their, their strengths. They knew each other's strengths. It was just really fun to see that. And it kind of -- and maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but it left me thinking that OK, our world is secure. Like that was my biggest takeaway, I think, from this whole project. That if there are middle schoolers out there like these two young women are -- and all the kids that participated in the program -- we're good, we're good, world. We're good.

Jim Collison 19:41
Yeah, those two in particular, I'd hire, I'd hire both of them in a second. When we interviewed them, I'm like, How -- can you start tomorrow? They were just, they were just so fantastic. Who else -- who else wants to jump in's got a comment?

Mike Crawford 19:54
Yeah, I was kind of feeling a lot of the same thing, obviously. They knew their strengths so well and, and they could talk about that, although my boys were kind of hard to draw out of themselves at first. It was interesting to watch their teacher and her reactions on camera, as I was trying to draw them out and get them to talk. And, you know, because they, they were really quiet -- especially the first session. And, and the funny thing was is, right as we came on, two of the girls were leaving the room, and they were like, blah!, you know, and just out there and in front of the camera and saying, Hi. And then I get the boys. And it's like, let me pull it out of you. But, but they were --

Carol Anne McGuire 20:35
It was so funny, because when we were, we were, they were learning how to ask, you know, people for money for this donation for their fundraiser. And so Mike, at one point, said, "Well just try it on me. Ask me." And both of the boys just sat there. I was like, and I'm behind the camera, and I'm like, "Ask him!" And they wouldn't do it. So I wrote on a piece of paper, Ask him! And I put it in front of the camera, and they still wouldn't do it. And I said, Hey, Mike, I think Shane has a question for you.

Jim Collison 21:11
Mike, how did you draw them -- how did, or how did that work to draw them out?

Mike Crawford 21:18
I can't even say as I remember how it first started. You know, I asked them about their strengths and got them talking that way was something they were comfortable with. I asked them something of their interest, just get, get to know them a little bit and find out what they were involved in and maybe what made them tick. And so it began to get going. But as we moved along, David, I think was more engaged than Shane and, and was certainly then more willing and wanted to talk more and, and did more self-reflection. In fact, he's the one who contacted me and said, Hey, could, could you meet with me some other time? And so he and I had a separate coaching session, just because he wanted to talk through some other things. So yeah, yeah.

Jim Collison 22:07
Sometimes as adults, I think we're most intimidated by this age, for whatever reason. Hopefully, they're not listening -- and I know they're not, because we're not cool enough for them. But if -- we get intimidated, right, and think that -- What are some, what do, you know, what are some -- as you think about how you interacted with them, what, what are some tips for coaches to just think about if you're working with this age, or really working with anybody? How do you get that conversation started sometimes?

Mike Crawford 22:34
If I'm having trouble getting them going, I do just do a lot of asking about themselves, you know. Help me, you know, tell me, tell me what you like to do in your free time. Tell me what you, you know, just the basics, to find out what makes them tick. And, and when you get them talking about what interests them most, I find they begin to open up more, so.

Kathie Gautille 22:55
I was gonna say, this is, when I, I interned with Mr. Rogers, back when, you know, a million years ago.

Jim Collison 23:05
Wait a minute, what? Fred Rogers?

Kathie Gautille 23:07
Yeah, Fred Rogers, and I was in the neighborhood -- Pittsburgh, you know. But, and the reason I bring that up is when I work with kids, he taught me how to talk to kids. And you talk to them like another person. And so for me, that was, that's really what I drew on, and -- when I have worked with young adults or high school kids; I've not worked with middle school kids. But that's really what I thought. And I felt like that, it works.

Carol Anne McGuire 23:42
Yeah, wow.

How Coaches' Own Strengths Played Into Their Coaching

Jim Collison 23:43
Let me, let me add on a question to this. And how does your own, how did your own Top 5 or your own understanding of yourself and your own strengths -- how did that play into these conversations with the students? Who will share that?

Kristin Clifton 23:57
I'll say --

Jim Collison 23:59
Go ahead, Kristin.

Kristin Clifton 24:00
My Includer and my Individualization, often, with my Woo, can, can help me really try to find ways of connecting with people. It was a little more difficult over Zoom. And so you add the fact that like, I did feel like, I hope I look cool. I hope they, I hope when they see me, they like me. But then as we're talking, realizing that, just as when you're talking about strengths with adults, you don't want the strength to become a label; you don't want to just start to double down on, Well, I'm a, I'm competitive, or I'm this or I'm that. But at the same time, that is who they are. And so as we're talking -- and for my two gals, I kind of got the sense that one was more engaged than the other, but not, but probably because, if you looked at their strengths, one had Competition. There was like, one had Competition, but she wasn't really feeling the whole dog thing. And so, but she worked hard to stay connected to the purpose, even though that wasn't her real interest.

Kristin Clifton 24:59
And so, what I noticed for myself is my Activator, which I said was No. 6, coming in and being like, OK, girls, like, we still have a, we have to accomplish something, though. And trying to sit on my Activator, and let them come to it. But at the same time, they're middle schoolers -- trying to be like, Come on. You've got it in you; I know you got it in you. How can I draw that out?

Jim Collison 25:20
Yeah, who else? Monica?

Monica Holmes 25:21
Yeah. What I, what I found to be helpful was I looked at their strengths. And I kind of looked at what strengths that we shared, right? So Paige, she had Individualization, and I have Individualization. And Aashna had Restorative. And so we kind of looked, I looked at that through the lens of how I could possibly look and ask them questions around those areas to see how we can continue to engage with one another. And I also asked them questions that, from their perspective, from a middle school, like, you know, What are some of the hot things that your, your friends are doing? Or What are some things that you think they would be interested in? When we, when we were kind of settling on some fundraising ideas. Like, what's the hottest thing now? And, you know, I thought that I was kind of cool, and I would make a suggestion. "Oh, no, that's not what we do." I was like, "OK, well, let's try this. Let's try that."

Monica Holmes 26:10
So looking at their strengths in comparison to mine, I kind of honed in on that, just to see if I could get, you know, a little more feedback from them. And it worked. And it worked. Because Paige, as I said, her Individualization, she was, she was open, to, to, to explore more, right. And then with, with Aashna and her, they both had Intellection. So they were deep thinkers. Like there were pauses in times, they would, you know, really focus. And on top of Intellection, Aashna also has Deliberative. So she was really, along with Competition, and you talked about that -- how she hid her, she had her ace in the hole until the end with, with, with the, with the matching. So it was very interesting. So that those are the things that I kind of focused on, in order to bring about a more engaged conversation.

Kathie Gautille 27:04
I'd like to say when this, I think it was the second time that I met with the girls, I could tell Markay was kind of disappointed in where she was with the fundraising. But she has this amazing passion for this dog. And, you know, and I could tell, I really had not even asked her, her Top 5. And I, but I could hear all the emotional words she was using. And I, you know, her Empathy was coming through loud and clear. And I said, "One of the things you may want to think about is why do you think someone want, would want to support this cause, this, you know, the, the, the training the dogs?" And -- or any animal, I guess.

Kathie Gautille 27:54
And when that happened, how her whole, everything just started to unfold as to what she could say and how she could present it -- rather than, you know, we're doing this thing at school, and we really want to win, and we -- Mojo's amazing, really hitting on what she could talk about, as far as her emotions and why it was important to her and should be important to them. So I, I loved that moment. And Naomi was amazing in supporting her and really boosting her self-confidence too. I thought they, they both were amazing together,

Carol Anne McGuire 28:31
That, that particular meeting with them, with your session with the girls, well, I saw a huge change in them after that. Because all their videos had an emotional pull. You know, why is it, why is it good for a therapy dog to be in school? Like, how was he helping the emotional intelligence, you know, the emotional, mental health of the kids here? Like their whole entire, I saw their whole, their whole being shift after that. It was, it was so fun.

Kathie Gautille 29:03
Well, we really brainstormed -- what would, why would people want to support this? And, but then coming up with the bookmarks -- that really was more Carol Anne than it was Kathie. But that's, that's actually the fun, what they ended up, I think, raising the most money with, perhaps. They were amazing.

Carol Anne McGuire 29:25
They were ama -- I mean, they were, they were all ama -- they, they were amazing. And it was amazing to me to watch how you worked with it. For me as a coach, it was just fun for me, because I got to like sit in on all of your sessions with them, and go, like, Oh, that's a good technique! Oh, I like these. I'm going to write that one down.

Jim Collison 29:46
Should have recorded those.

Carol Anne McGuire 29:47
I know! I should have.

Matching Coaches and Students

Jim Collison 29:50
Couple questions coming in. Ken asks, Did you match the students, or were the matched-up students based upon the Top 5, or was it just random? How'd you, how'd you pick coaches and students?

Carol Anne McGuire 30:01
Totally random; it was basically what coaches could meet at what time. So because I have kids at different periods, so it was really total luck, you know. And it, it was interesting, because they really were matched so perfectly with the perfect coach. It was, it was just amazing to me. But it really was just like, Oh, you can be there at 9? OK, that's my third period. Or, you know, like, that's how we matched him up.

Kathie Gautille 30:29
One of the things that was, that really tickled me, honestly, was they're in a public school. But one -- it may have been Markay, I don't remember which, but they said, "Are you a Christian?" And that was just, that was that opened the door for other conversations, which was great. And I -- may have been my cross, I don't know. But just wanted to share.

Jim Collison 30:53
Sheri, Did you want to add anything? I heard you, I heard you jumped in.

Sheri Miter 30:56
I just said, It was a God-wink the way they were matched up. Because even, I think, didn't one of the students have Command? And I have Command. It's not a common, you know, theme. So it was a, it was a good match.

Mike Crawford 31:11
It's interesting, with my students, with my, I share one really dominant theme with each of them, but it came out so differently in them than me. You know, mine cause me to very, very goal-oriented, but boy, it was hard to get, get them to set goals and to seek to achieve goals.

Jim Collison 31:30
You know, as adults, we get this opportunity to see this, this theme play out in a very raw form. And not raw bad, just raw -- a lack of experience, right? A, life hasn't completely run them over yet, in some cases. They're not tainted by high school or college or those first job or whatever those things are.

Carol Anne McGuire 31:51
But that's exactly the reason why I do this with middle school students is because life hasn't run them over. And I want them to know -- and really, if I could send one message to my kids is that when life runs you over and you feel like, "I have nothing; I am nothing," go back to these strengths. Because you are amazing; you are amazing. And you, when you feel like you can't do anything right, go back to these things. Because you know you can do these things right. I just don't want them to feel hopeless. I want them to feel like they matter. And they're the only person in the entire earth that can bring those themes together in the way they can. And that is really my intent with all of these kids, is that -- just that.

Mike Crawford 32:43
Shane and I share No. 1 Achiever, but he has mostly Relationship in his Building Top 5. I have Relator No. 3, and that jumps down to No. 16 before I have another Relationship Building theme, so it just totally --

Carol Anne McGuire 32:57
And it would -- that was another thing that was interesting me -- to see, like, some of you shared the, their themes with them, but they really -- like really, really looked different on people. Like I know that they look different on people, because I coach. But like to see it live, like in person three at a time or four at a time like, and you'd be like, Oh, yeah, wow, that one totally looks different on you.

Sheri Miter 33:18
It'd be fun to watch -- Oh, sorry.

Jim Collison 33:20
No, go ahead, Sheri.

Sheri Miter 33:21
I was gonna say, it'd be fun to track this project a decade down, you know, what, where are these students down the road?

Carol Anne McGuire 33:30
I'm planning on it.

Sheri Miter 33:31
Yes, let us know -- based on just knowing their strengths at such an early age, but then also learning, learning how to ask. Like, that's huge. That's much more practical than a lot of the math skills that we have to learn in school, right? It's already how to ask for what you want in the real world.

Carol Anne McGuire 33:50
True.

Kathie Gautille 33:50
That's a good point.

Carol Anne McGuire 33:51
That's true.

Monica Holmes 33:52
During the last part, the last time we were together, I asked the question in the chat, How has this benefited the students in regards to their academic success? And several of them responded and said that they kind of understand themselves. One young lady talked about how she's up late at night, and Focus is in her Top 5. So she can relate to the, how that supports her and getting the work done. So as Mike said, offer, earlier, he wished he had had this as a, as a teenager, right, as a middle schooler. Because we would have, you know, overcome so many hurdles, just having this information and knowing who we are, and building upon that as we, as we matured. So --

Kathie Gautille 34:29
That is so true.

Jim Collison 34:32
It's a really common thread I hear in these kinds of circles, where it's like, Oh, I wish I would have had this. And, of course, we can't go back. I think one of the cool things is that we can pay it forward. So Carol Anne, you, you enlisted some folks to do this. It, it didn't take, like it didn't take a contract of, you know, large sums of money moving around and a lot of time, right. It was these, it was kind of a short burst of input into these students' lives, a couple coaching sessions that had such an impact. And yeah, a little coordination on your end to get it all put in place. But it didn't have to be, you know, it didn't have to be a act of Congress, so to speak, like --

Carol Anne McGuire 35:15
It's all the ask! It's just not being afraid to ask.

Jim Collison 35:19
Well, I want to inspire others, because as we've been going through this series, I've heard from folks listening to this, "Oh, I so wish that, that I could do something like this." And I guess I want to say, "What's stopping you?"

Carol Anne McGuire 35:32
That's right. Try it!

Coaching-Inspired Change in Students via Self-Understanding

Jim Collison 35:33
Why not give it -- I'm sure all of you, coaches, now are kind of thinking, OK, now that I've done this and seen this happen this way, maybe there's other ways I can pay it forward with, with students in and do this. I want to, I want to go back to this question from Rebecca in the chat room. She says, Do you think, with CliftonStrengths, students can better understand their personal learning style? And I guess, I want to ask this question to you -- Did you see it, was it, was it, did you see a change? Mike, you're shaking your head "Yes." So tell me what you're thinking.

Mike Crawford 36:07
Oh, just, you know, David, in particular, is all Strategic Thinking. And, you know, he thinks a lot. But he, one of the things he wanted to continue talking to me about is, How do I then move to action? He's got like Activator No. 33 and Achiever No. 34. You know, so how do I move from, you know, from thinking to action? And, and really wanting to tap into that. And so seeing him want to have that conversation was inspiring to me -- and, and learning from that, as he grew.

Carol Anne McGuire 36:39
That was probably one of my favorite moments, too, is to see like the kids afterwards reach out to you, you know, after this was done. And it was, it was funny, because I was, they're, you know, they're always in the back room. And I can hear that; they don't think that I can hear their conversations. But I can. And one of the --

Kathie Gautille 36:59
Now they know! If they're watching.

Carol Anne McGuire 37:04
They're not going to watch this. But they were, they were talking in the back. And one of the kids was saying, you know, "I'm, all mine are, all my themes are in the Executing Domain. And so I'm just a doer. So I'm gonna --" and he was just on and on about how he is an executor. And he just wants to get things done. And it was just fun for me to take a minute and listen in to a conversation that was a comp -- on their own, I mean, there's no teacher back there -- but to listen to this very strengths-based conversation with kids, and go, "They get it. They totally get it." It was fun.

Jim Collison 37:47
Who else? Who else wants to add to that -- learning styles or things you saw or even changes in the short time you were working with them?

Kristin Clifton 37:55
Well, I think, Carol Anne, we have the story of Alex speaking to a group of people, when, going into this, she may have not thought of, thought of herself as a public speaker. But because she knew that she cared about the subject and having -- I felt like we both were reinforcing with them, like it's a, the worst thing that will happen is you ask and someone says, "No." The worst that will happen is someone will say, "No." I mean, yeah, the "No" might hurt a little bit, but that's the worst that can happen. And so giving them the, sort of the wherewithal to say, You know what, I'm gonna speak my truth. I'm gonna go ahead and say what this dog needs me or what I've seen this need to my school community, and then have people listen. And have, and have that validation that, Oh, wow! My voice matters. That was exciting.

Carol Anne McGuire 38:41
Absolutely. I have one student that's so, so, so shy. And they decided to do a puppy paint party. And in the puppy paint party, they had, I don't know, 16 dogs, plus all the dogs' owners, plus all the people in the pet store that were around that were coming to watch, like, How are dogs painting a picture? You know, they were all there. And she stood up in front of this entire group and talked about how stressful school is and how, you know, people don't understand, wearing these masks. Like she went on, and how Mojo coming into the school just like helps alleviate that stress. And I was like, Wow! Like that is, that's amazing. Like, just take the whole dog out of it, but like just to see this kid come into her own and not be afraid. Like that was amazing. And it was because she learned, it was because of you guys. It was because you spoke into my student's life. And I'm so grate -- you and all the coaches that came in, I'm so grateful for you.

Jim Collison 39:46
Yeah, this is just a representative sample, right, Carol Anne?

Carol Anne McGuire 39:50
Yeah.

Jim Collison 39:50
It's not everybody. How many, how many more coaches did you have?

Carol Anne McGuire 39:53
We had 12 in all.

Jim Collison 39:55
OK, 12 coaches. How many students in the program?

Carol Anne McGuire 39:58
12.

Jim Collison 39:59
OK, So 12 and 12. One and one.

Carol Anne McGuire 40:01
I was thinking if we had like two or three coaches, that would be cool. And I literally had enough coaches for every kid to have their own coach.

How Coaching Students Changed Coaches

Jim Collison 40:09
That's super great. That is super great. Let's, let's transition a little bit. because I want to hear -- I'm interested. How did this change you? Like, as a coach, what do you think you learned through this? And we've alluded to some of that in the process -- thinking about, How did you change? What does this, where did this change your mind? What do you think? Jump in, and who's gonna go first?

Kathie Gautille 40:34
One thing I would say is, this really demonstrates the caring heart that coaches have. And wanting, we know that CliftonStrengths makes a difference -- that it can change a life. And the fact that so many did step up and offer their time, I just, to me, you know, you saying, Jim, paying it forward is just so, it -- I never looked at it that way. But I think you're absolutely right. And know, knowing the power of strengths, but again, just really seeing the caring hearts of coaches that really want to make a difference.

Kristin Clifton 41:20
I think it's given me a perspective too about, one, right, that you can talk to younger people about their strengths, so they can have a legitimate conversation about it. But also for the adults that, at some level, we're all middle schoolers still a little bit -- especially if we are just coming to know our strengths in our full adulthood, that there's some grace I could continue to give to folks on talking to about their strengths, to know that they're still learning how to use them as well. And they need the same love and encouragement that I might not have led with love and encouragement because you're an adult, come on.

Jim Collison 41:57
I think I'm probably more awkward than any middle school student most days -- let's just be really clear about that. So I think they got, they have one up on me. Who else? Who else will share? How did this change you? Monica?

Monica Holmes 42:10
It's changed me -- what I've found is that the investment is key. And just watching Carol Anne with those students and her time and her investment and even some of her resources, right, her personal resources, is key in, as you said, paying it forward and making a difference. So it was just, it was awesome how well these students understood their strengths. Like I work with adults every day, and some of them still can't even, you know, identify their Top 5, let alone, you know, use them as a resource to, to navigate daily living. And so it's a true testament to her work and her passion with these students and with the work of StrengthFinders, as well as her faith-based organization, how important it is that we do the same, right? That we give back. that we pay it forward, that we invest in our youth. And because, as my husband always says, you know, they are our future. They're gonna be our future doctors, our future nurses, our future bankers, right. So it's our responsibility to provide that support and continue to be that, that resource for them to further understand and navigate life.

Jim Collison 43:14
I'm just kind of hoping they'll be future Gallup employees, just to be honest.

Sheri Miter 43:19
At least Natalia and Isabella, for sure. Right.

Carol Anne McGuire 43:23
All of them are ready.

Mike Crawford 43:26
Sorry, I want several of them to be church planters -- but that's just my batch.

Monica Holmes 43:32
And educators, we need --

Jim Collison 43:36
Well, and, you know, it's exciting. I think, Catherine had asked this question; let me, let me bring it in now. As we think about, you know, how many years the program has been in place and what kind of metrics, the thing I'm, Carol Anne, I'm kind of interested from you is thinking about, like, 10 years or 15 years from now, the, these students will be in the workplace. And thought, any thoughts on tracking it that far? So we, I mean, they could be future coaches, right?

Carol Anne McGuire 44:03
Absolutely. So I have, I, this is my seventh year doing this with these kids. And I still keep in contact with the kids, a lot of the kids that have gone through the program, which is kind of fun for me, because, like, now they're past, you know, they're in college or the end of college. And it's been fun for me to kind of track them. We, I do have a deal with my kids, that when they get their first job, and they have to answer the question, What are your strengths and weaknesses? I want to know how that goes. And so every once in a while, I'll get an email that's like, It's not my first job; it's my third one, but I still used -- you know, so I still keep in contact with them. I absolutely 100% have kids that want to become coaches. Like they have, that's their goal, like, their mindset right now is to become a coach. And just to think like you have your lifelong, your whole, basically your whole life, you've been thinking about your strengths and what they do. I'm, just, it would just, they would be so powerful.

Jim Collison 45:10
Well, how cool would that be for them to say, When I was in middle school, I got an opportunity, worked these strengths through high school and my first job, and then they're coming back to middle schoolers.

Mike Crawford 45:21
Can I tell you a story related to that?

Jim Collison 45:24
Yeah.

Mike Crawford 45:24
My son, when he was going into 8th grade, attended a church camp where one of the things they did was they discovered their strengths and worked through their strengths. And it was a 4-year kind of academy type of thing, to where all through high school, he was engaging his strengths. And, and now, not only is he, utilizing those, he, through that, ended up having a call to be a pastor. And now he's helping restart that camp and leave it for junior -- for those students again. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna have an honor of working with them with strengths this summer.

Kathie Gautille 46:03
That's great.

Jim Collison 46:05
Who else? What did you learn? We got a few, we got a few minutes. Other, or other things you learned about yourself?

Sheri Miter 46:12
I would just say, one was just so proud to be part of the strengths community, because so many people did step up and volunteer to do this. Two, that I do miss working with youth, and I need to figure that out, like, what's next? Because I'm very sad the program is over. And three, just like what has already been said, really, is that working with the youth really is no different than working with adults. And that gift that we can give people to tap into their strengths, to empower them to know that they are designed for something bigger than they even know, is just so powerful at any age.

Carol Anne McGuire 46:55
Yeah. Absolutely.

Jim Collison 46:58
Carol Anne, will you -- go ahead, Mike,

Mike Crawford 47:00
I just echo exactly what Sheri said -- virtually every piece of that's what I've learned, and especially the, the energy I get from working with students and, and the joy it gives me, so thank you.

Jim Collison 47:15
It's a pretty great group. And, you know, I got the opportunity to work with high schoolers and a little, little bit of middle school in our internship program at Gallup. And I'm just addicted to it, like, I can't not, you know, want to do it. Carol Anne will you, what did you learn through this? You've got these coaches here -- what did you learn in this?

Carol Anne McGuire 47:34
I learned that we have such a gracious community. I mean, that I'm, I'm so grateful for the time that you guys took. I think I've learned to step back and, and take a breath every once in a while. I mean, it was, it was interesting, because Kathie worked with kids with, that are very empathetic. Empathy for me is very low. And so that probably, if I was the one coaching them, would probably have not have grabbed on to that as fast as Kathie did. And so, to take a moment and say, you know, let's, let's Focus on You, because sometimes I just want to get things done. And so it's, it's just, it was fascinating for me to sit in on your sessions. Some of them I sat in, some of them, I was like, the kids were like, "Nope, we want it all by ourselves." And I was like, "OK." But it was fun for me just to listen to your hearts.

Carol Anne McGuire 48:32
You know, I got to know a little bit about you through what you did for my students. And so I learned just to, for me, probably just to, it's OK to take a minute. And it's OK for me not to know everything. I think as teachers, sometimes you want to know everything before you get in there. And I think it's OK not to know everything, because sometimes the joy in learning is learning it with your kids. You know, seeing them for the first time go, Oh, we could make an emotional pull video. Like to watch them get that Aha! moment, I felt like I had, I was having the same moment with them. And to watch them grow, I just, I've just, I am so thankful -- so thankful for you guys answering this call, and to the other coaches that did and are watching, so thankful for you.

Kathie Gautille 49:23
It was fun when we would, when we would meet, how excited they were.

Carol Anne McGuire 49:28
Oh, yeah. Let me tell you, as soon as they learned that you had Positivity, they were like, Yeah!

Mike Crawford 49:37
There were kids who looked excited on camera?

Carol Anne McGuire 49:42
Sorry, Mike, you had the deep thinkers, and Kathie had the over-the-top excited. It was like literally --

Kathie Gautille 49:51
It really fed my Woo and Positivity -- and Individualization.

Mike Crawford 49:56
I learned too about drawing out Empathy, even though Empathy is like No. 32 for me. That was one way I tried to, tried to draw Shane into it. I think Empathy was one of his Signature Themes. And, and, you know, they first created a video and they were like, "What do you think?" I'm like, and I, who don't feel anything, felt even less!

Carol Anne McGuire 50:20
But you changed it around for them.

Mike Crawford 50:23
They came up with a wonderful video. If you get a chance, you ought to put that in the chat, Carol Anne. That was a great video they came up with,

Carol Anne McGuire 50:33
They did, and it was because of you. Like you helped them rethink things. And it, it was just -- all of you did that. You all help them rethink and really look at their strengths in a totally different way. And it was just so exciting for me.

Sheri Miter 50:50
One of the things that was fun, one of the sessions, the girls were working on their raffle or the "ruffle." And what was cute was, I asked them, "Do you have a goal? Like, what's your goal for, you know, how much money do you want to make for this project and this piece of it?" And I think it was Natalia that started off, "Well, like," -- no, it was Isabella, I think, that said, "Well, maybe, I don't know, $100." And I knew, based on what Carol Anne had told me about the, all the other things, they could do a lot more than that. And I could tell the other one, who has Maximizer, you could just see her wheels kind of moving. So it was fun, as a Maximizer to Maximizer, to say, "Using your Maximizer, what do you think? Could we push that up? You know, could you push that up a little bit?" And I think they came up to $300. And they ended up blowing it out of the water, like --

Carol Anne McGuire 51:44
They made over $500.

Sheri Miter 51:46
Yeah. So that was fun.

Carol Anne McGuire 51:47
Every single group overdid what they, I mean, originally, our whole entire goal was $3,000. The kids in the end made over $23,000.

Carol Anne McGuire 51:59
Crazy.

Kathie Gautille 52:00
Wow!

Carol Anne McGuire 52:01
Every single group was pushed to the extreme. And I really honestly believe it was because of you, and helping them learn how to sharpen each other, you know, work with each other and use each other's strengths. And, I mean, you, they blew it out of the w -- I mean, they totally did more than what I ever thought they were going to do.

The Amazing Power of 2

Jim Collison 52:26
I think it's a good, a good lesson in the Power of 2, even for a very short term. Like, I mean, just think about it. This wasn't a long-term 15 sessions, right? These were very, kind of quick-hit, in and out, have an, have an impact. And, and I think it just goes to the power of doing that, of being available, of being willing to just do this a couple times and see. I mean, imagine long term, if this could go long term, the impact it could have.

Carol Anne McGuire 52:59
When we got to the end, and the kids were like, "Can we do it again?" And I was like, "Oh, no." But they, once they realized like how to work, I think they were finally getting a rhythm, like how to work with each other, how to do the ask, how to do -- like they were hitting a groove. And then we got to the end. And they were like, we, That's it? We got to keep going! I was like, I'm done. But it was --

Jim Collison 53:28
Addicted to the success a little bit, right?

Carol Anne McGuire 53:30
Yeah, but just the fact that -- yes, it was total addiction to the, to the success. It was addiction to seeing how their strengths can blow stuff up -- not just, not just become strong, but become a superhero. There was a difference. You know, we were, originally, our goal was just to strengthen them. And they became superheroes.

Kathie Gautille 53:57
Well, they learn to even comp -- complement each other with their strengths. That was, you know, the Power of 2, like Jim said, was very powerful. And I'm glad you employed that, because that's, I think, was a great learning for them.

Carol Anne McGuire 54:13
That, that, I think, was that the key pin to the success of this was the Power of 2.

Mike Crawford 54:20
I'm figuring out how to work that in the camp, when I work with students at camp this summer.

Carol Anne McGuire 54:25
100% you should. Find a goal that they have to work together, because it, it really, it surprised me. I had, I did not expect what they came up with.

Jim Collison 54:35
Powerful partnerships. And it works there, and it works in organizations, and it works in nonprofit groups, and it works getting people to work together in this framework -- in this CliftonStrengths framework -- and when, when you focus that around, it just has the incredible ability to quickly speed up, right, to, so they could get to know each other faster in that process. And it was fun. Carol Anne, I could see it in their eyes, when we were interviewing them on the last, and we were talking and, because several of them were partners in this. And you can just see that trust. It's weird. Like you see the trust in them, in their body language and the way they looked at each other on camera, right, the way they talked about each other.

Carol Anne McGuire 55:15
And they do that in class. They do that around campus. They do that in front of their friends. Like you can, they have trust in each other that they don't have with other students. It's a different ballgame.

Jim Collison 55:29
It's, it's pretty great. Well, coaches, I want to thank you for doing this -- one, for coming on today to be a part of this. Always super fun. These are like my favorite, because we just get a chance to talk about life. And it was, and it's always super fun. But thank you for making the time this morning to be a part of this. Carol Anne, I'll say thanks to the other coaches as well. We couldn't get everybody here in this time slot. But, but thanks to them as well. Thank you for doing what you do. And for taking this extra, pay-it-forward type opportunity with these students. And you'll make a forever impact, which is maybe a little dramatic, but I think it's pretty true.

Carol Anne McGuire 56:05
It's true!

Jim Collison 56:07
Thank you for doing that. Coaches, we're going to put you guys backstage. Don't go anywhere, because I want to talk to you when we're done. But we're gonna put you backstage. Thanks for, thanks for coming out. Appreciate it. No, we want to leave Carol Anne here -- I'm getting too click happy. OK, coaches, again, you're backstage. You guys stay, hang tight. Carol Anne, any final thoughts as we kind of bring this in for a landing. And anything else you want to say?

Carol Anne McGuire 56:30
I'm just so thankful. I'm thankful for our -- we do have an amazing coaching community. And I'm just, I'm just so, so grateful for the coaches that have come out, and even the coaches that were like, "Hey, I can only come one time. Is that OK?" And Yes! Yes! It's OK. It's going to be great! You know, we had Deon come from Australia and do like a big presentation. And he sent us pictures of dogs with their strengths. So like, Responsibility was a guide dog. And then we have like this big wall in the back room of all these dogs with their, you know, strengths on them. And it, so it was just like this outpouring of the coaches, and I'm, I just want to give you back so much love. I'm so thankful.

Jim Collison 57:15
Yeah, yeah, it's been fun. It's been a good series. I think a lot of folks have, have enjoyed it. But I think it's, it's an opportunity for inspiration. Like, are you, are you gonna do this again this way next year? Will this show back up again? Will you enlist -- ?

Carol Anne McGuire 57:29
I mean, I, somehow it will. Like, I will definitely incorporate the Power of 2 in some way; whether we do a fundraiser, I don't know. I mean, let, no, Consistency is No. 34 for me, so I don't tend to do things the same, the same way. But I will do the Power of 2, for sure, with my kids. This was just way too big for me not to do this, this again.

Jim Collison 57:51
Will you get coaches involved again?

Carol Anne McGuire 57:53
100%. So coaches, be looking around Christmastime, January, I'll put another call out.

Jim Collison 58:02
2023. Just, just so, these are time shifted, you might be listening to this -- and make it available. Well, I think there's some inspiration here for others to say, like, Oh, I could do this too. It does, doesn't have to be you. And you can bring your own unique talents to this as well, and make it your way and affect students. I think Mike was talking a little bit about how he's gonna incorporate this in some of the work that he's doing. And some of you that participated, you need to carry this on to, I mean, we need some exponential growth in this. We can't just have one person doing it; we have to have a bunch of people doing it. And I'd love to be able to tell this story a dozen times a year, as opposed to just one, so, but you got to do it. You have to do it. You can't just talk about it.

Carol Anne McGuire 58:49
All they could say is, "No." Just go ahead -- put it, put the ask out there!

Jim Collison 58:54
Carol Anne, when we talked about this, it was funny. We started spending some time, and I'm like, Oh, this is a series for sure! And so thanks for giving me 3 times to spend time with you. And again, thanks for the coaches who did this, for the students who spent time in Part 2. And if you haven't listened to all of them, we'll have links eventually to all sessions. School's starting; I'm having my heart just --

Carol Anne McGuire 59:18
I know; did you feel it?

Jim Collison 59:19
Hurry, just a little bit. Gotta go to class. Where's my locker? No, that was the bad dream; that's the bad dream I had last night. We'll get you out of here. With that, we'll remind everyone to take full advantage of all the resources we do have available on Gallup Access. Head out to gallup.com/cliftonstrengths. If you have any questions around this or, or whatever, right, you can always send us an email: coaching@gallup.com. If you want to be a coach, or you need coaching, master coaching or want to become a Gallup-Certified Strengths Coach, you can do that too. Send us an email: coaching@gallup.com. Join us on our Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/calledtocoach -- all one word -- and we'd love to have you out there. Of course, you can find us on any social platform just by searching "CliftonStrengths." Want to thank you for joining us today. It's the top of the hour; I got to get everybody to their next meeting. With that, we'll say, Goodbye, everybody.

Carol Anne McGuire's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Achiever, Learner, Focus, Positivity and Woo.

Sheri Miter's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Futuristic, Maximizer, Self-Assurance, Command and Strategic.

Kathie Gautille's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Woo, Arranger, Belief, Positivity and Individualization.

Monica Holmes' Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Positivity, Individualization, Developer, Belief and Restorative.

Kristin Clifton's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Woo, Ideation, Includer, Communication and Individualization.

Mike Crawford's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are Achiever, Analytical, Relator, Strategic and Maximizer.